{"id":2220,"date":"2024-03-23T05:22:24","date_gmt":"2024-03-23T04:22:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/turid.se\/?p=2220"},"modified":"2024-03-26T20:21:47","modified_gmt":"2024-03-26T19:21:47","slug":"sjark","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/2024\/03\/23\/sjark\/","title":{"rendered":"Sk\u00f8yte, clipper bow and shark"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Jakob:<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

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Our old Turid from R\u00f8st in Lofoten was a skate, a clipper bow, or a shark. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Or simply a fishing boat, in both Norwegian and Swedish. Which name you use depends on old habit and which character trait you want to emphasize. This is how I interpret the various concepts.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Turid<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

Skating<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n
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Great Norwegian lexicon writes<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Fully decked, tipped (meaning that the stern as well as the bow is pointed with a stem) usually 10-15 meters long. Engine operation gradually took over from the year 1900 and then it became common to build the wheelhouse and engine room aft. Usually a small redoubt in the bow for the crew.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Turid was laced and the description matches well. Turid was from 1935 and had a wheelhouse in the stern above the engine.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Lotssk\u00f8yten RS14 Stavanger designed by Colin Archer in 1901<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Clipper bow \/ clipper bow<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n
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Clipper bow on an older Norwegian fishing boat<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n
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The bow is the part of the hull that is at the front. Clipper book<\/em> refers to the sharp, high bow and pointed prow inspired by the fast sailing ships known as clippers and developed in the mid-1800s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In Norway, boats of the Turid type with a straight stern are called clipper bow<\/em>, in other words clipper book<\/em> in Swedish.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Bow types (Understanding boat design, Brewer 1993)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

Sharp<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Small motorized fishing boats with covered wheelhouse and gunwale. The word "sharp<\/em>\u201d is generally believed to have originated in the border areas in the far north towards Russia and to be a word with Russian influence or origin. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Now I stick my chin out when I delve into Norwegian etymology, but I just can't help it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Googling online<\/a> there are fantastic theories where it would have to do with Swedish midwives and medical ships. I simply don't believe it. It's way too far-fetched. Norwegian <\/a>Wikipedia<\/a> believes that the word comes from Russian having borrowed it shark<\/em>, meaning shark in English. I don't think that's reasonable either.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My personal opinion<\/strong> which I have not found support for in science is that it may be the Russian word \u0447\u0430\u0440\u043a\u0430<\/a>, which is pronounced tjarka and means cup<\/em> which is the origin. Then I think cup<\/em> in a transferred sense much as one might say soap cup about a small rowboat or that the English word vessel<\/em> can mean both Container<\/em> (i.e. e.g. cup<\/em>) and craft or ship. Vessel<\/em> has Latin origin the same origin as Swedish vase<\/em> <\/a>(as in flower vase).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But as I said, this is my personal suggestion for explanation. I have sought confirmation from science without success.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jakob Norstedt<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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A Nordland boat converted to a barge in Sund, Flakstad, Lofoten around 1900<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n
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\u0447\u0430\u0440\u043a\u0430 in Russian-Swedish dictionary<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Jakob: Our old Turid from R\u00f8st in Lofoten was a skate, a clipper bow, or a shark. Or simply a fishing boat, in both Norwegian and Swedish. Which name you use depends on old habit and which character trait you want to highlight. This is how I interpret the various concepts. Sk\u00f8yte Store norske lexikon writes: Held\u00e4kkad, spetsgattad... Continue reading Sk\u00f8yte, clipper bow and shark<\/span><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":2222,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"cybocfi_hide_featured_image":"yes","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_spotmap_latitude":"","_spotmap_longitude":"","_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[31,81],"tags":[25],"class_list":["post-2220","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bat","category-turid","tag-turid-den-forsta","entry"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"rttpg_featured_image_url":{"full":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug.png",334,342,false],"landscape":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug.png",334,342,false],"portraits":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug.png",334,342,false],"thumbnail":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug-150x150.png",150,150,true],"medium":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug-293x300.png",293,300,true],"large":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug.png",334,342,false],"1536x1536":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug.png",334,342,false],"2048x2048":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug.png",334,342,false],"trp-custom-language-flag":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug-12x12.png",12,12,true],"post-thumbnail":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/klipperbaug.png",334,342,false]},"rttpg_author":{"display_name":"Jakob Norstedt","author_link":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/author\/jakob\/"},"rttpg_comment":2,"rttpg_category":"B\u00e5t<\/a> Turid<\/a>","rttpg_excerpt":"Jakob: V\u00e5r gamla Turid fr\u00e5n R\u00f8st i Lofoten var en sk\u00f8yte, en klipperbaug, eller en sjark. Eller r\u00e4tt och sl\u00e4tt en fiskeb\u00e5t, b\u00e5de p\u00e5 norska och svenska. Vilket namn man anv\u00e4nder beror p\u00e5 gammal vana och vilket karakt\u00e4rsdrag man vill framh\u00e4va. S\u00e5 h\u00e4r tolkar jag de olika begreppen. Sk\u00f8yte Store norske leksikon skriver: Held\u00e4ckad, spetsgattad……","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2220","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2220"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2220\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2672,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2220\/revisions\/2672"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2222"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2220"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2220"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2220"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}