{"id":295,"date":"2016-01-29T22:41:13","date_gmt":"2016-01-29T21:41:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hoijen.se\/?p=295"},"modified":"2023-10-13T17:11:43","modified_gmt":"2023-10-13T15:11:43","slug":"q-l804-current-status-2016-01-29","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/2016\/01\/29\/q-l804-current-status-2016-01-29\/","title":{"rendered":"Q-L804 \u2013 Current status 2016-01-29"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><em>by Jakob Norstedt, admin Q Nordic project<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Email: <a href=\"mailto:jakob@hoijen.se\">jakob@hoijen.se<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q-L804 is one of the two subclades forming the Q Nordic project (the other is Q-L527). <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This is Q-L804&#039;s position in relation to its neighbors:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_294\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-294\" style=\"width: 486px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/q-m1107_subclades.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-294\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-294\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/q-m1107_subclades.png\" alt=\"Q-L804 and it's neighbor clades with time estimates from Yfull for branching. ybp = Years before present\" width=\"486\" height=\"491\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-294\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Q-L804 and its neighbor clades with time estimates from Yfull for branching. ybp = Years before present<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Q-L804 is very independent. It&#039;s closest neighbor clade is Q-M3 but their most recent common ancestor lived about 15,000 years ago. Q-M3&#039;s members have Native American ancestry.<\/p>\n<p>Just a little further away is the Q-Z780 subclade which also has members of Native American ancestry. The <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Anzick-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Anzick-1 boy<\/a> buried in Montana, USA, 12,600 years ago and found in 1968 belonged to Q-Z780.<\/p>\n<p>As far as we know now (data from Yfull), contemporary members of Q-M3 have an origin in countries like Peru, Colombia and Mexico and contemporary subclades of Q-Z780 are found in Mexico.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Branches of Q-L804<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A total of 23 BigY samples have revealed a basic structure of Q-L804. So far we know three main branches:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_293\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-293\" style=\"width: 320px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/q-l804_tree.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-293\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-293\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/q-l804_tree.png\" alt=\"Q-L804 and it's three branches\" width=\"320\" height=\"236\" srcset=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/q-l804_tree.png 320w, https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/q-l804_tree-300x221.png 300w, https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/q-l804_tree-16x12.png 16w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-293\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Q-L804 and it&#039;s three branches<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The branches all have a common ancestor who lived about 3100 years ago. There are about the same number of kits in each branch.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Distribution of the three branches<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The known ancestors of the tested kits indicate different histories of the branches.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_292\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-292\" style=\"width: 526px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/2016-01-28_q_nordic_l804_maps.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-292\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-292\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/2016-01-28_q_nordic_l804_maps.png\" alt=\"The three Q-L804 branches. Origin of BigY kits with known ancestry.\" width=\"526\" height=\"677\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-292\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The three Q-L804 branches. Origin of BigY kits with known ancestry.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Q-JN15 Western Scandinavia<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The branch defined by the SNP JN15 has members with ancestry from western Norway, Iceland, Britain, and France.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_291\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-291\" style=\"width: 643px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/2016-01-28_l804_western.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-291\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-291\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/2016-01-28_l804_western.png\" alt=\"The Western Scandinavia branch of Q-L804. \" width=\"643\" height=\"829\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-291\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Western Scandinavia branch of Q-L804.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>It seems reasonable to think that the diversity of nationalities reflects an expansion from Norway by Vikings and\/or Normans. The Icelandic kit splits from the others a little later and has it&#039;s genetically closest cousin in Geiranger, M\u00f8re og Romsdal, Norway.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_309\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-309\" style=\"width: 518px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/geiranger-island.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-309\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-309\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/geiranger-island.png\" alt=\"The distance Geiranger - Iceland is about 1200 km\" width=\"518\" height=\"245\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-309\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The distance Geiranger \u2013 Iceland is about 1200 km<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Q-BY386 Britain<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The British branch, defined by the SNP BY386, has kits from England and Scotland. In this branch there are also kits from the USA with unknown but supposed British origin.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_301\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-301\" style=\"width: 593px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/2016-01-29_l804_britain.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-301\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-301\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/2016-01-29_l804_britain.png\" alt=\"The British branch of Q-L804.\" width=\"593\" height=\"726\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-301\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The British branch of Q-L804.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>MacSwain, the Scottish kit at the far right of the chart, is the first to split from the others. Three tested kits with the surname Pearson is a part of this subclade. They are not yet fully analyzed at Yfull.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q-BY469 Easter Scandinavia<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The branch defined by the SNP BY469 has most of its members in Sweden.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_300\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-300\" style=\"width: 777px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/2016-01-29_l804_eastern.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-300\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-300\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/2016-01-29_l804_eastern.png\" alt=\"The Eastern Scandinavia branch of Q-L804.\" width=\"777\" height=\"845\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-300\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Eastern Scandinavia branch of Q-L804.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>There is also a kit with German ancestry (surname Frum) and a kit from Hedmark in Norway close to the Swedish border.<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familytreedna.com\/groups\/qnordic\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Link to the Q Nordic project<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/yfull.com\/tree\/Q-L804\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Link to Q-L804 at Yfull<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.yseq.net\/group_alleles.php?gid=107\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Link to Q Nordic at Yseq<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/2016-01-29_Q-l804.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Link to overview for print (PDF)<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Jakob Norstedt, admin Q Nordic project E-mail: jakob@hoijen.se Q-L804 is one of the two subclades forming the Q Nordic project (the other is Q-L527). This is Q-L804&#039;s position in relation to its neighbors: Q-L804 is very independent. It&#039;s closest neighbor clade is Q-M3 but their most recent common ancestor lived about 15,000 years ago.\u2026 <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/2016\/01\/29\/q-l804-current-status-2016-01-29\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Q-L804 \u2013 Current status 2016-01-29<\/span><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"cybocfi_hide_featured_image":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[55],"tags":[62,40,63,47],"class_list":["post-295","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hoijen","tag-english","tag-l804","tag-q-nordic","tag-q-l804","entry"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"rttpg_featured_image_url":null,"rttpg_author":{"display_name":"Jakob Norstedt","author_link":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/author\/jakob\/"},"rttpg_comment":0,"rttpg_category":"<a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/kat\/hoijen\/\" rel=\"category tag\">H\u00f6ijen<\/a>","rttpg_excerpt":"by Jakob Norstedt, admin Q Nordic project E-mail: jakob@hoijen.se Q-L804 is one of the two subclades forming the Q Nordic project (the other is Q-L527). This is Q-L804&#8217;s position in relation to it&#8217;s neighbors: Q-L804 is very independant. It&#8217;s closest neighbor clade is Q-M3 but their most recent common ancestor lived about 15,000 years ago.&hellip;&hellip;","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/295","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=295"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/295\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1828,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/295\/revisions\/1828"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=295"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=295"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=295"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}