{"id":333,"date":"2016-03-19T21:38:23","date_gmt":"2016-03-19T20:38:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hoijen.se\/?p=333"},"modified":"2023-10-13T17:11:43","modified_gmt":"2023-10-13T15:11:43","slug":"inte-alla-norstedt-stammar-fran-hojen-vissa-ar-i1-l813","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/2016\/03\/19\/inte-alla-norstedt-stammar-fran-hojen-vissa-ar-i1-l813\/","title":{"rendered":"Not all Norstedts originate from H\u00f6jen, some belong to I1-L813 FGC9493+"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Earlier <a href=\"http:\/\/hoijen.se\/2014\/04\/23\/sakra-hojen\/\">blog posts <\/a>have shown that the family Norstedt from H\u00f6jen outside Falun is characterized by haplogroup I1-L1302, more precisely I1-BY211 or I1-BY2828.<\/p>\n<p>But not all Norstedts belong to this family. Jonas Olsson who lived 50km away also took the name Norstedt. He was born at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.se\/maps\/place\/Larsbo\/@60.1682266,15.3519622,99518m\/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x465d93814b223d9f:0xe27edfb9a86585de?hl=sv\">Larsbo mill, S\u00f6derb\u00e4rke<\/a>, 1723-07-18 and had many descendants.<\/p>\n<p>Now two now living from different branches have tested their Y-DNA. The haplogroup is not yet definitively determined, but by all accounts they belong to haplogroup I1-L813. This is how their branches to the most recent common ancestor Johan Norstedt and the most distant ancestor Jonas Ersson look like.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_323\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-323\" style=\"width: 580px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/norstedt_larsbo_L813.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-323\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-323 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/norstedt_larsbo_L813.png\" alt=\"norstedt_larsbo_L813\" width=\"580\" height=\"554\" srcset=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/norstedt_larsbo_L813.png 580w, https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/norstedt_larsbo_L813-300x287.png 300w, https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/norstedt_larsbo_L813-13x12.png 13w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 580px) 100vw, 580px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-323\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Norstedt from Larsbo \u2013 I1-L813<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The results can be found in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.familytreedna.com\/public\/norstedt?iframe=yresults\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Norstedt project<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>There are now two DNA-tested separate Norstedt families<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Norstedt from H\u00f6jen \u2013 haplogroup I1-BY211<\/li>\n<li>Norstedt from Larsbo \u2013 haplogroup I1-L813<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/norstedt-hg-karta.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-327\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-327\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/norstedt-hg-karta.png\" alt=\"norstedt-hg-karta\" width=\"455\" height=\"224\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I1-BY211 and I1-L813 both belong to the main group I1 but are then very distantly related. They are estimated to have a common ancestor who lived around 4700 years ago. The ISOGG tree for I1 exists <a href=\"http:\/\/isogg.org\/tree\/ISOGG_HapgrpI.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>Update: SNP testing has shown them to be FGC9493+, a subbranch of L813 (2017-01-14).\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Jakob Norstedt<br \/>\n<a href=\"mailto:jakob@hoijen.se\">jakob@hoijen.se<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Previous blog posts have shown that the family Norstedt from H\u00f6jen outside Falun is characterized by haplogroup I1-L1302, more specifically I1-BY211 or I1-BY2828. But not all Norstedts belong to this family. Jonas Olsson who lived 50km away also took the name Norstedt. He was born at Larsbo farm, S\u00f6derb\u00e4rke, 1723-07-18 and had many descendants. Now have two now alive from different\u2026 <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/2016\/03\/19\/inte-alla-norstedt-stammar-fran-hojen-vissa-ar-i1-l813\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Not all Norstedts originate from H\u00f6jen, some belong to I1-L813 FGC9493+<\/span><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"cybocfi_hide_featured_image":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[55],"tags":[21],"class_list":["post-333","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hoijen","tag-allmant","entry"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"rttpg_featured_image_url":null,"rttpg_author":{"display_name":"Jakob Norstedt","author_link":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/author\/jakob\/"},"rttpg_comment":0,"rttpg_category":"<a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/kat\/hoijen\/\" rel=\"category tag\">H\u00f6ijen<\/a>","rttpg_excerpt":"Tidigare blogginl\u00e4gg har visat att sl\u00e4kten Norstedt fr\u00e5n H\u00f6jen utanf\u00f6r Falun karakteriseras av haplogrupp I1-L1302, n\u00e4rmare best\u00e4mt I1-BY211 eller I1-BY2828. Men alla Norstedt h\u00f6r inte till denna sl\u00e4kt. Jonas Olsson som bodde 50km\u00a0bort tog ocks\u00e5 namnet Norstedt. Han f\u00f6ddes vid Larsbo bruk, S\u00f6derb\u00e4rke, 1723-07-18 och fick m\u00e5nga \u00e4ttlingar. Nu har tv\u00e5 nu levande fr\u00e5n olika&hellip;&hellip;","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/333","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=333"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/333\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1827,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/333\/revisions\/1827"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=333"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=333"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=333"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}