{"id":679,"date":"2018-04-10T17:43:36","date_gmt":"2018-04-10T15:43:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hoijen.se\/?p=679"},"modified":"2023-10-13T17:11:26","modified_gmt":"2023-10-13T15:11:26","slug":"alla-slakt-med-alla","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/2018\/04\/10\/alla-slakt-med-alla\/","title":{"rendered":"Alla sl\u00e4kt med alla?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Ibland kan man f\u00e5 en k\u00e4nsla av att alla i ett begr\u00e4nsat omr\u00e5de f\u00e5r DNA-match med alla andra. Detta kan st\u00e4lla till problem n\u00e4r man vill\u00a0 testa om ett sl\u00e4ktskap st\u00e4mmer; det blir sv\u00e5rt att skilja intressanta matcher fr\u00e5n ointressanta. Det blir sv\u00e5rt att veta vad man egentligen ser.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Jag f\u00f6rs\u00f6ker just nu bekr\u00e4fta eller avf\u00e4rda ett sl\u00e4ktskap fr\u00e5n Byskeomr\u00e5det och f\u00f6r att f\u00e5 ett b\u00e4ttre underlag f\u00f6r bed\u00f6mning ville jag uppskatta f\u00f6rekomsten av\u00a0 &#8221;slumpmatcher&#8221; eller &#8221;falskmatcher&#8221;. Hur stor risk \u00e4r det egentligen att en person med r\u00f6tter i omr\u00e5det mellan Skellefte\u00e5 och Pite\u00e5 f\u00e5r match med en annan person vilken som helst utan att det finns n\u00e5gon s\u00e4rskild misstanke om sl\u00e4ktskap?<\/p>\n<p>Helt ovetenskapligt fr\u00e5gade jag d\u00e4rf\u00f6r i Facebookgrupper efter Gedmatchnummer till personer med huvudsakliga r\u00f6tter i omr\u00e5det. Jag fick in en upps\u00e4ttning som jag nu j\u00e4mf\u00f6rt p\u00e5 Gedmatch.<\/p>\n<p>S\u00e5 h\u00e4r ser parvis totalt gemensamt autosomalt DNA och X-DNA ut i gruppen om 10 personer fr\u00e5n omr\u00e5det p\u00e5 Gedmatch. F\u00f6rst med tr\u00f6skel 7 cM \/ 700 SNP:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_682\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-682\" style=\"width: 628px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-682 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite_1-22_7cm.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"628\" height=\"226\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-682\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aut. DNA, Total Shared cM, 7 cM \/ 700 SNP<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_681\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-681\" style=\"width: 628px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-681 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite_x_7cm.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"628\" height=\"225\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-681\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">X-DNA, Total Shared cM, 7 cM \/ 700 SNP<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>D\u00e4refter med lite l\u00e4gre tr\u00f6skel, 5 cM \/ 500 SNP:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_684\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-684\" style=\"width: 628px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-684 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite_1-22_5cm.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"628\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite_1-22_5cm.png 628w, https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite_1-22_5cm-300x107.png 300w, https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite_1-22_5cm-18x6.png 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 628px) 100vw, 628px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-684\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aut. DNA, Total Shared cM, 5 cM \/ 500 SNP<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_683\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-683\" style=\"width: 629px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-683 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite_x_5cm.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"629\" height=\"227\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-683\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">X-DNA, Total Shared cM, 5 cM \/ 500 SNP<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3>Slutsats<\/h3>\n<p>De flesta med r\u00f6tter i omr\u00e5det Skellefte\u00e5 &#8211; Pite\u00e5 har tydlig autosomal DNA-koppling till varandra. 67 % (2 av 3) i min slumpm\u00e4ssiga grupp har koppling som klarar 7 cM tr\u00f6skeln och 82 % (5 av 6) klarar 5 cM-tr\u00f6skeln.<\/p>\n<p>X-match \u00e4r inte lika vanlig men ungef\u00e4r 15 % (1 koppling av 6) har X-DNA som klarar tr\u00f6skeln 7 cM och 35 % (1 koppling av 3) har X-DNA som klarar tr\u00f6skeln 5 cM.<\/p>\n<p>Gruppens sammans\u00e4ttning kan diskuteras men tendensen \u00e4r klar. Merparten matchar varandra p\u00e5 autosomalt test och en hel del har X-match.<\/p>\n<p><em>Jakob Norstedt<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ibland kan man f\u00e5 en k\u00e4nsla av att alla i ett begr\u00e4nsat omr\u00e5de f\u00e5r DNA-match med alla andra. Detta kan st\u00e4lla till problem n\u00e4r man vill\u00a0 testa om ett sl\u00e4ktskap st\u00e4mmer; det blir sv\u00e5rt att skilja intressanta matcher fr\u00e5n ointressanta. Det blir sv\u00e5rt att veta vad man egentligen ser. Jag f\u00f6rs\u00f6ker just nu bekr\u00e4fta eller&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/2018\/04\/10\/alla-slakt-med-alla\/\">Forts\u00e4tt l\u00e4sa <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Alla sl\u00e4kt med alla?<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":1749,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"cybocfi_hide_featured_image":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[55],"tags":[60],"class_list":["post-679","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-hoijen","tag-dna-teknik","entry"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"rttpg_featured_image_url":{"full":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett.png",335,225,false],"landscape":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett.png",335,225,false],"portraits":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett.png",335,225,false],"thumbnail":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett-150x150.png",150,150,true],"medium":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett-300x201.png",300,201,true],"large":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett.png",335,225,false],"1536x1536":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett.png",335,225,false],"2048x2048":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett.png",335,225,false],"trp-custom-language-flag":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett-18x12.png",18,12,true],"post-thumbnail":["https:\/\/turid.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/ske-pite-vinjett.png",335,225,false]},"rttpg_author":{"display_name":"Jakob Norstedt","author_link":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/author\/jakob\/"},"rttpg_comment":0,"rttpg_category":"<a href=\"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/kat\/hoijen\/\" rel=\"category tag\">H\u00f6ijen<\/a>","rttpg_excerpt":"Ibland kan man f\u00e5 en k\u00e4nsla av att alla i ett begr\u00e4nsat omr\u00e5de f\u00e5r DNA-match med alla andra. 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Jag f\u00f6rs\u00f6ker just nu bekr\u00e4fta eller&hellip;&hellip;","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/679","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=679"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/679\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1810,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/679\/revisions\/1810"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1749"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=679"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=679"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turid.se\/sv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=679"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}